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Roommates 302 - Demi by AsheRhyder Roommates 302 - Demi by AsheRhyder
In which Thursdays are more thoroughly explored,

OR

In which nothing changes.


Yes, I ship it.


Here's a couple of vocabulary words that explains my interpretation of their relationship.:
Demiromantic
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Demisexual
[link]

This means:
1.) They are in a relationship because of the connection and shared history between them, both A.) in the book/musical/movies and here in the comic, which takes place outside of canon.

2.) They are not doing anything in the comic that is going to throw the rating up to Mature. There are perfectly healthy relationships that do not require that kind of interaction for both parties to be happy.
If that's not your thing, it's not going to be forced down your throat; that's not what this relationship is about. That said, kindly keep any orientation bashing, ageism, and flames out of the comments. Thank you.





Javert and Valjean belong to Hugo, Boublil, Schonberg, and Kretzmer.
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:iconwynnifredd:
Wynnifredd Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015
I have two warring views on this. On the one hand, I REALLY hate gay bashing of any stripe. I have several friends in stable and loving gay relationships, and anyone messing with them would quickly find themselves in a world of hurt that would impress even Erik.

 On the other hand, WHY must two guys comfortable in each others' presence mean they HAVE to be gay? Honestly, there's this little thing called friendship, and you used to not have to delicately label it.

and I'm personally hoping this is just a good friendship, because Javert is twenty kinds of delectable, and I'd hate for him to be off the table :P
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:iconbookwormgal:
Bookwormgal Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
Everyone deserves the chance to be happy.
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:iconfighting-dreamers-94:
Officially Blushing
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:iconthechinasorrows:
TheChinaSorrows Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014
I love you for this.
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:iconhannahhypolita:
HannahHypolita Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
As much as I love this, I feel kind of cheated...I was reading through the comments and I can't find it now, but there was one that said you had a big delicately balanced arc planned...why is it always my ship that gets a small thing?

Even so, still amazingly adorable to the point that I have this printed out and look at it whenever I need a little happiness.
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:iconhannahhypolita:
HannahHypolita Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
You know what's amazing about all of this? The most amazing thing? You ask for no orientation bashing or ageism or flames...and I go through the comments and there aren't any. People like this comic enough and are polite enough to just listen :D

I never shipped them before this. Then I started shipping them in your comic and somehow I ended up just shipping them, period. How?
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:iconspiritfox94:
spiritfox94 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
-happy squeels so loud people in CHina can hear them-
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:iconalibongoavery:
AliBongoAvery Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Flobalobalob *squee* I SHIP IT I REALLY DO!!!
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:iconjarethsslave:
JarethsSlave Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
Ageism?  What exactly is ageism?  Oh god.  Please tell me that doesn't mean there are people who hate couples with a significant age gap.  I'm gonna be a target for that one day!  NOOOO!  I can't help it if all the hottest guys are older than me!  *cries*
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:icondee-bunny-79:
Dee-Bunny-79 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014
This is so adorable! :squee: Your art style only makes it better.
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:iconnerisiren:
NeriSiren Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
There's something kind of John/Sherlock about this, which makes me love it even more.  Also, Valjean's eyes in panel 11.

P.S.  O hai! Don't mind me, just catching up with the Roommates-verse...^^;
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NikiMaweird Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:owww-cute: 
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:iconemari-chan:
Emari-chan Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013
<3 <3 <3 <3
The level to which I ship this is probably unnecessary.
....
I find that that does not bother me in the slightest.
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:iconrose-harp:
rose-harp Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
THEY ARE SO ADORABLE!!!!

*squeals*

I'm good.

(And nearly caught up!)
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm glad you enjoyed!
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:iconanimikean:
Animikean Featured By Owner May 22, 2013
Thank you, it's been too long since reading your comic it's an oganic adorable and touching <3

and the links you posted spoke to me and I feel less disconnected because of it

thank you :)
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm glad they were of help!

Thanks for enjoying the comics. I hope you like the future ones,too.
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:iconookami-blaze1995:
Ookami-Blaze1995 Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Student General Artist
dtfiva;h';DSFV AD<F AS
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
In a good way, I hope?
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:iconookami-blaze1995:
Ookami-Blaze1995 Featured By Owner May 21, 2013  Student General Artist
oh yes....very good. *waves ship flag like it is nobody's business*
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:iconmoonblaster13:
Moonblaster13 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I wouldn't sail this ship if I hadn't ever read Roommates. Thank you. :'D
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm glad you're enjoying! Welcome to the ship!
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EpiphanyBlue Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013
I've been thinking about these two a lot.
If you don't mind explaining, what makes this pairing work for you? How do you think that these two could actually come to care for each other- or, as this is your comic-verse, how did it happen?
(sorry for the Wild Mass Commenting this hour.)
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh glory, trying to explain this could lead into an essay that takes up so much time... I'm not even sure I have the proper words for it...

I guess for me what makes this pairing work is the progression of dichotomy into balance. These two characters both have similar themes, but have such wildly incompatible views of how to achieve their ideals, and neither is perfect on their own. (Granted, Valjean's philosophy is by far the more exalted of the two in the original works, but let's not forget that even as an antagonistic force in the story, Javert saves Valjean from the Thenardiers, however inadvertently.) I like seeing these two forces, so different and yet at their core still part of the same, coming together and becoming better for it.

In regards to their relationship in the comic, it's the product of many slow, small steps. The characters here don't have the luxury of ignoring or escaping uncomfortable self-realization as they did in their original stories, so Javert didn't really get much choice in Avoiding It. And, truth be told, they work well together; not on a romantic level, but simply *working*. Javert is there to be ruthlessly practical and temper Valjean's optimism and blind hope/faith. Valjean is there to take the edge off Javert's cynicism and put a lid on that permanent well of despair beneath him. Javert has too much self control to keep from falling into that well (... most of the time...), but its taint can still color the way Javert sees things.

They have experience working with each other in M-sur-M; Javert already knows that Valjean is not as good at organizing his paperwork as he could be, and Valjean knows that Javert will work through lunch if not reminded to eat. With animosity and fear cleared away by necessity, consideration and concern take up the empty space. It becomes comfortable. Comfort grows, envelops, and becomes the best sort of habit, the kind that is distressing to break. They reach a point when (at least one of them) realizes that this is what makes them happiest. And then the other realizes it. And they're both happy.

... and that was a lot of rambling, and I'm still not sure that expressed it correctly, but I hope it answers the question at least a little...
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:iconookami-blaze1995:
Ookami-Blaze1995 Featured By Owner May 21, 2013  Student General Artist
^THIS!just this okay. you just managed to wrap my whole philosophy/headcanons about how this pairing could work very nicely together in a couple concise paragraphs. ( I actually wish you WOULD write an essay on this...how this whole "world" you have made just seems to work. "...two sides of the same coin" I find is a phrase that would describe Javert and valjean quite nicelyI think.
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EpiphanyBlue Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013
Yes, it does.
The "permanent well of despair"... he's a brave man just for dealing with that, I think.
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:iconetile:
etile Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
yes!!!! i love you for this!
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Glad you enjoyed!
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:iconsunaluv:
sunaluv Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
omg yes!!!! i love these two together so much! and they are just so sweet!!
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Glad you enjoyed!
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:iconsunaluv:
sunaluv Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
of course i would, it's your work!
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:iconmeggiemufin:
meggiemufin Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2013
I don't ship it either, but gosh dang it is so adorkable here. Love it! :D
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm glad you enjoyed!
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:iconappasmomo:
appasmomo Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
i.love.it!
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm glad you enjoyed!
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:iconmarizelda:
Marizelda Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, ship ship ship ship ship ship ship ship ship shpishpihshpispspihshpiosh.
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yup.
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:iconclockworklondon:
clockworklondon Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
Crying about it, tbh. I love the way you write their relationship. And it's really nice to see anyone acknowledging demisexuality/romance. <3
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you. *offers handkerchief* Yeah, we need more of the spectrum in media, don't we?
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:iconjade1216:
jade1216 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Student
DAWWW
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Glad you enjoyed!
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:iconvereshti:
Vereshti Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013
I don't personally ship them, but your treatment of them is very d'aww-inspiring.
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks muchly.
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demonnightkittyninja Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
And I am so not surprised by this comic and because of Roommates development of the characters I am very pleased by it too. Mostly cause I find them so C.U.T.E cute.
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm glad you enjoyed!
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:icontheinsaneartist:
TheInsaneArtist Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013
But, wait, what quadrant would you put it in?! [link]
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EmmaLeUnicorn Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Matesprit, though demi makes me think of Morails....
In movie, they were totally kismesis.
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:iconasherhyder:
AsheRhyder Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't follow Homestuck, but based on the page, I guess it would be Matesprit. At least as far as the comic is concerned, they've re-established the functional working relationship found in the M-s-M era, and developed it into an actual relationship.
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galenlas Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013
Please, don't make them fall in love. I'm not homophobic; I'm actually extremely tolerant of homosexuality, transexuality, etc., though I myself am straight, and other gay pairings (except for incestuous ones) don't bother me, but Valjean and Javert? It just freaks me out. Badly.

Although they are kinda cute in the last panel.
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:iconepiphanyblue:
EpiphanyBlue Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
I used to think this pairing absurd, but I have changed my mind to a degree. (I basically 'ship them as friends but I am willing to be flexible with well-constructed fan-verses such as this.)
If you would be interested in reading some thoughts on why this pair makes sense, I have documented my own reasoning briefly but comprehensively in my Journal. I have thought this through pretty carefully.
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